AQ: Why industrial induction motor star point not grounded?
In any electrical system, we limit the neutral grounding to 1 or 2 locations at the power source, eg, the star-points of generators or transformers. By keeping the grounded neutrals at the power source, earth leakage current will be flowing radially from the power source to the point of short-circuit at downstream. In this way the direction of earth fault current flow can be easily identified and the earth fault protection relays in the distribution system can easily be coordinated.
Grounding a motor star point will create an earth path for earth leakage current to flow through that motor’s star point. If there are 10 motors in a process plant and their star points are all grounded, there are 10 additional paths for earth leakage currents to flow through.
If all the motors’ star points are grounded in this way the earth fault current detections by the protection relays will be complicated and likely they will trip at the incorrect locations because earth fault currents are flowing in many directions toward multiple grounded neutral points.
Therefore the electrical consumers (ie the load, including the capacitor banks), even if they are star connected, are not to be grounded.
Grounding of neutral point is not being decided base on the presence of unbalance loads. It is decided for safety reason and for earth fault protection requirement. Unbalance 3-phase load will result in some current flowing through the neutral conductor but it doesn’t result in a (residual) current flowing through the neutral-ground connection.
Motor is a balanced 3-phase load, this I agree. However when the system supply voltage is unbalanced caused by unbalanced loads somewhere else or due to network conductors problem, the motor operating under unbalance voltage will result in unbalance current in the 3 windings. The same is true for the generator windings under that condition. The design engineer may then decide that individual machines should be fixed with negative phase sequence current protection.
Even if there is a neutral voltage shift in the induction motor, we should not ground the motor’s neutral point. If you ground it, it may create nuisance trip of earth fault protection relays (the motor’s EF relay, upstream EF relays, or the EF relay connected to transformer’s neutral-ground CT).
I am sure in reality, there is some neutral voltage shift in motor’s star point. However, there is no harm with that.
If you ground the star point, you still will not get rid of the unbalance current/voltage from the motor windings. There the negative sequence current is still present in the motor winding.
If you think an unbalance voltage supply is causing problem to the motors, you should solve the unbalance voltage problem elsewhere, not by grounding the motor’s star point.
AQ: Hysteresis and eddy currents
Hysteresis would also lead to harmonics, complicating things even further. And, when considering unbalanced three-phase systems and/or the presence of harmonics, the conventional tools for power system analysis might not be applicable.
The losses due to hysteresis are limited by using better materials in transformer core. Eddy current losses are limited by using laminated construction. These losses are a relatively small portion of the total losses in a power system. Most of the losses are Joule losses (currents and resistances).
Because “energy” might be misinterpreted. Sure,
But they do so twice (one positive, one negative) on every cycle of the AC system, so the average energy is zero.
There is an energy “exchange” between magnetic and electric fields. But no, that is not an oscillation in energy (kWh), not something that you could measure, for instance, in the torques on a mechanical shaft (that is purely kW, active power).
AQ: Why there are different type’s conductor cables, like EPR, XLPE
As far as the cables insulation material is concerned, EPR and XLPE insulated cables to some extent are having similar properties. In this respect, there are different types of Electrical cables such as ETFE ,FP, HOFR , LSF,LSOH, MI, PILC, TRS, VR, CTS, CSP, PTFE, etc.
However, it may be necessary to conduct a rough comparison (insulation) between the PVC and XLPE cables to clear the picture.
1. PVC/SWA/PVC multicore sheathed cables are manufactured in all sizes up to 400 mm² in accordance to BS 6346, the allowable operating temperature up to 70 °C.
2. XLPE Cables are used at max. ambient temp. of 90°C and are made to BS 5467. These cables have better insulation qualities than PVC and available in sizes up to 400 mm² or 1000 mm² Single Core.
Both type of cables are easy to lay and bending and they have less bending radius up 8 times nominal diameter.
These Different types of cables are not only based on the insulation material, are also either classified as cables of Aluminum conductors or Copper Conductors. Regardless, each has it own characteristics which can be appropriate to a range of installation / application since there are many wiring systems that may be adopted. In deciding the type of wiring system for particular, many factors have to be taken into consideration e.g….
a. Whether alteration & extensions are expected or not. Also, whether is going to be executed during the construction, in a completed project or as an extension of existing system.
b. Type of Project / building, function, purposes and ambient and environmental conditions.
c. Expected duration (life time) of the Installation.
d. The required layout, safety & constraints.
e. Feasibility & Cost
Eventually, I confirm that armored PVC & XLPE Insulated cables are now being used widely for feeders, submain cables & Industrial Installations.
Such Cable consists of multi conductors insulated by PVC or XLPE, with PVC sheath and steel wire armor (SWA), and PVC sheath overall.
AQ: Neutral current is less than phase current?
In a balanced 3-phase system with pure sine waves, the neutral current is zero, ideally.
If there is phase imbalance, it shows up in the neutral, so check for imbalance.
The other major cause of high neutral currents is full wave rectification, where the current of each phase is flowing only at its peak voltage. In this case, the neutral current can be as high as three times the phase currents, theoretically.
If you can see the frequency of the neutral current, line frequency currents indicate imbalance. Current due to full wave rectification is high in third harmonics, so it may show mostly 3 x line frequency, or be a ratty square wave at 3 x line frequency.
High neutral currents, and some resulting fires, are largely responsible for the adoption of power factor correction requirements. If your loads are balanced and pfc corrected, you should not have neutral currents.
The neutral current (In) is summation of the phase currents. And obviously, the three phases are decoupled now; and not loading Y makes Iy=0.
So In = Ir + Ib (vectorial sum). Now depending on the amount of loading, nature of loads and their respective power factors, a variety of possibilities (for neutral current magnitude and phase) arise; which may include the case of In being higher.
The statement “neutral current is usually less than phase currents” is naive and not universal.
Nonlinear loads (i.e. rectifiers as Ed mentioned above) draw significant harmonic current. In many cases the current Total Harmonic Distortion (THD) is >100%. In a 3-phase, 4-wire system, the triplen harmonic currents (3, 9, 15, 21…) sum in the neutral wire because they are all in-phase. This is why the neutral current can be much higher than the phase currents even on an otherwise balanced load application. If you can put a current probe on the neutral and look at the waveform – you can see how much fundamental vs. harmonic current there is.
AQ: Torque ripple information from low resolution speed signal
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I am trying to develop a controller for switched reluctance motor which minimizes torque ripple. My design is acquiring torque ripple information from speed signal. In simulation a high pass filter for speed gives me good ripple information. But in experiments I am using a 500 PPR optical absolute encoder to get the position and then calculate the speed using microcontroller (dspace) capture module. But the filtered speed signal does not provide much ripple information. Can you suggest any method to extract ripple information from low resolution speed signal.
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1. In simulation, do you consider motor inertia? Inertia filters out torque ripple’s impact on speed, resulting in a smooth speed signal. 2. Generally speaking, a low resolution position sensor produces speed signal of more noise, especially at low speed. I would expect more noise out of your high pass filter.
An encoder generally does not specify an accuracy for the A to A! channel or B to B! channel or it is so broad a spec that it is useless. If you have the ability to trigger a clock on A and B to determine the period between A and B channels the difference between successive reads will give you a good indication of your ripple.
In some cases of motor – encoder installations the mechanical alignment of the encoder to the exact center of motor shaft can cause misalignment noise to occur in the resolved speed signal. In theory the ripple signal could provide useful information however in practice there are too many other influences. Even the shaftless encoder mounting has some of these difficulties.
AQ: Snubber circuit for IGBT Inverter in high frequency applications
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First i had carried out experiments with a single IGBT (IRGPS40B120UP) (TO-247 package) 40A rating without snubber and connected a resistive load, load current was 25A , 400V DC and kept it on continuously for 20min . Then i switched the same IGBT with 10KHz without snubber and the IGBT failed within 1min. Then i connected an RC snubber across the IGBT (same model )and switched at 10KHZ. The load current was gradually increased and kept at 10A. This time the IGBT didn’t fail . So snubber circuits are essential when we go for higher switching frequency.
What are the general guide lines for snubber circuit design in You are not looking close enough at the whole system. My first observation is that you are using the slowest speed silicon available from IR. Even though 10KHz is not fast, have you calculated/measured your switching losses. The second and bigger observation I have, is that you think your circuit is resistive. If your circuit was only resistive, any snubber would have no effect. The whole purpose of a snubber is to deal with the energy stored in the parasitic inductive elements of your circuit. Without understanding how much inductcance your circuit has, you can’t begin designing a cost and size effective snubber.
To echo one of the thoughts of Felipe, you need to know the exact purpose of the snubber. Is it to slow down the dV/dt on turn off or is it to limit the peak voltage? Depending on which you are trying to minimize and your final switching frequency, will dictate which snubber topology will work best for you. The reason that so many snubber configurations exist, is that different applications will require different solutions. I have used snubbers in various configurations up to 100KHz.
AQ: Why BLDC motors are noiseless compare to Induction motor?
If referring to the acoustic noise generated at or around the PWM frequency of the PWM frequency. There are more laminations in an induction machine. This may account for some of the difference.
I also don’t know what the relative power difference is between the BLDC and the induction machine. If it’s about a 5Hp BLDC and a 100Hp induction machine, then you can bet that the PWM frequency of the BLDC is likely above the audible range and the PWM frequency of the induction inverter is well within the audible range.
These are just a few reasons that you may find subtle differences between the two. There are many factors and more information is needed to really help understand your specific situation.
I also believe there are simply sophomoric and unprofessional answers. My statement is based on the general rule that there is greater surface area between laminations of squirrel cage induction machine then there are in BLDC machines. Of course, if you want to state that you have a thin lamination on a long stack length design for a BLDC then there may be an argument that such a motor design when compared to a typical induction machine of the same power has a similar surface-to-surface lamination area. It is these laminations moving due to eddy currents at the PWM frequency that causes the audible noise.
BLDC can come with very small inductance which requires a higher PWM frequency, if you compare both them with controller that may cause different.
If you build 2 motor using exact mechanical shapes and electrical parameter they should be very close. You can build 2 induction machines from 2 different vendors to same electrical spec and they will not sound the same.
AQ: System configuration of grounding
There are different types of system configuration for grounding like TT,IT,TN-C etc. How do we decide which configuration is suitable for the particular inverter (string or central). What are the factors that help us to decide the configurations?
One of the main concerns in a system is to avoid large low impedance ground loops.
These are created by the return signal path connected to the chassis (metal work) at multiple points. The large current loop allows noise currents to radiate H fields and hence couple into other electronics. The antenna effect will be proportional to loop area.
Single point grounding of the return path to chassis prevents this. However single point grounding conflicts with good RF practice where you want to ground to chassis at the sending and receiving ends of a signal path. There is therefore no universal best practice.
In my field, spacecraft, the standard practice has all primary power electronics galvanically isolated from the spacecraft chassis. Individual modules must maintain the isolation with transformer coupled DC/DC converters. The centre tap of each PSU secondary output is then single point grounded to the module metalwork. We talk about primary side and secondary side electronics where only secondary side is grounded to the metalwork.
Anything powered directly from the primary bus must be isolated with a maximum capacitance to chassis of 50nF to avoid excess HF loop currents forming.
In general it depends on country specific law and standards required by Power Supply Operators. From design point of view it all depends on which point of grid you are going to connect and what type of inverter is used.
AQ: Lighting control panel to distribution board
There are a couple of construction differences which may be present, depending on the style of “lighting control panel”.
First, a distribution board typically has poly-phase branch breakers with the intention of feeding either other sub-panels or large loads — such as a motor with a motor controller.
A lighting control panel will have mostly single-pole breakers with phase-to-neutral branch circuits feeding lighting circuitry. There is the added possibility of having either ‘smart’ breakers or integral contactors included on the branch circuits to allow for a control means for area lighting beyond local control of an individual fixture/small group of fixtures, such as an office or conference room.
In general
1. The final branch circuits to be identified and rating load to be estimated.
2. Adequate utilization/diversity Factor to be applied if applicable (depends on the application).
3. To ensure the load balance over the 3 Phase as possible.
4. For Fluorescent light fixtures arrangement of the said fixtures with respect (RYB phases) is necessary to mitigate rendering/glaring and frequency affect.
5. Then size of cable from DB to LCP can be determined/sized, rating of the protective devices can be selected and type of CB(s) subject to type of lighting fixtures.
6. Verification of Voltage drop within the prescribed limit, otherwise select the next standard cable size.
A distribution board typically has poly-phase branch breakers with the intention of feeding either other sub-panels or large loads and lighting control panel (is also one type of distribution panel) will have mostly single-pole breakers with phase-to-neutral branch circuits feeding lighting circuitry.